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points taken away for "cheating"

Started by Aidan Green , Dec 22 2016 07:24 PM

Best Answer Maximilian Arelle , 22 December 2016 - 07:32 PM

@Aidan Green

Cheating in general is a rule breaking, if in real life or on a roleplay server. And as you would get a bad grade you get the consequencs on the server. The 10 points taken are plausible and make sense. So you learn to not try cheating again. The Professor, who took these points spoke to a Co-Owner and asked for an advice, so this is completely legal and justice.

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today I did a hw thing for astronomy. it was a little short of 4 pages by about 20-25 words but I only needed 1 more point for 2nd year so I tried to do it fast. about 2 hours later I log on to see I have lost 10 points for so called "cheating". I asked the professor who graded my hw why I lost so many points. they said I had "cheated" for "copying word for word from Wikipedia". I admit that one or two of the sentences where not unlike the ones from Wikipedia but most of them where unlike the stuff one Wikipedia. also, taking away 10 points is more then a little harsh. this in my eyes was completely wrong and someone should do something about it.  


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@Aidan Green

Cheating in general is a rule breaking, if in real life or on a roleplay server. And as you would get a bad grade you get the consequencs on the server. The 10 points taken are plausible and make sense. So you learn to not try cheating again. The Professor, who took these points spoke to a Co-Owner and asked for an advice, so this is completely legal and justice.


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today I did a hw thing for astronomy. it was a little short of 4 pages by about 20-25 words but I only needed 1 more point for 2nd year so I tried to do it fast. about 2 hours later I log on to see I have lost 10 points for so called "cheating". I asked the professor who graded my hw why I lost so many points. they said I had "cheated" for "copying word for word from Wikipedia". I admit that one or two of the sentences where not unlike the ones from Wikipedia but most of them where unlike the stuff one Wikipedia. also, taking away 10 points is more then a little harsh. this in my eyes was completely wrong and someone should do something about it.


Using someone else's ideas or words without sourcing and giving credit is plagiarism. You may not know this, but plagiarism is a serious academic offense and doing this irl can get you a score of 0 on an assignment in high school and can actually get you expelled from college or university. In the workplace the penalties get even harsher. Maybe not ten points, but I agree some sort of penalty should occur for this, sorry. Let this be a valuable lesson, at least you learned it on here instead of the hard way irl where it matters.
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I feel like, one or two sentences, maybe not bad, and 10 points, eh I would have dont either 5+, but, we don't know what the hw looked like, so you could be lying... No offense, but we would need to evidence to tell...


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look, if its 1 or 2 sentences Its not that bad. I get that copying is cheating but this is just wrong. same with taking 10 points away. I didn't know that 2 copied sentences in homework it the same as flying on your broom in a class and setting of fireworks for 2 minutes. i didn't mean to plagiarize and steal stuff from Wikipedia, although I admit I did. the plagiarism was not intentional and I was exited to get 2nd year. I am sorry for my unintentional plagiarism and will try not to do it next time, though I am sticking with the idea that this was unnecessary.         


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I know saying that I didn't know it was plagiarism is not a excuse and I don't want anyone to think I'm saying it is. but there should be a warning or something and just not grade the homework.   


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Your warning is in the rules list, you should probably tap dance on over there and reread them. We don't care if it's a sentence, or the entire thing, if you cheat you cheat. I'm not saying that I consider your homework cheating, nor am I not considering it. But what Max did is what he decided was the best fit grade. You shouldn't question a Co-owner.

 

(sorry if the professor that took points wasn't Max ;-;.)


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First of all, "two sentences" was more than 25 words. You even said that your homework "was a little short of 4 pages by about 20-25 words ". What I meant by cheating is copying direct sentences. I even warned the class (sorry if you weren't in it) that if caught cheating, there would be consequences. Your whole homework then basically consisted of those two sentences from Wikipedia. :/ 


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that isn't very clear, sorry. no I wasn't in the class. and sorry for being a sociopathic homeschooler who's only social life consists of 13 year olds who act like there 4 and being sheltered like its the nuclear apocalypse. anyways, the whole "lets take 10 points from this guy for plagiarizing" is so wrong and it could be made way easier by saying "sorry dude you plagiarized this website. we are not going to give you points for this homework and you will be giving a warning. if you plagiarize again we will take points and possibly more". that would be so much easier and eliminate the chance (not saying that ether of these is the case for this plagiarism) of having people who didn't know you cant copy from the web on this server, or just say something that was basically the same somewhere else.  


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But (May I add my thoughts here) if you read the rules you wouldn't have lost the points it is simple as that


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I know the rules Jake. I'm just saying that the rule is a little harsh and there should be a warning at least.


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I also agree points should be taken but, 10 for a small homework? I think it should have been more around taking how much someone would get for the homework (in this case, around like 5?)
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